Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion

Administrator instructions

Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.

  • If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, you do not need to list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
  • If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
  • If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
  • Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)

Before listing a redirect for discussion[edit]

Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:

The guiding principles of RfD[edit]

  • The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
  • Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
  • If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion, the default result is delete.
  • Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
  • RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
  • Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
  • In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.

When should we delete a redirect?[edit]

The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

  • a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
  • if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Reasons for deleting[edit]

You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):

  1. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
  2. The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
  3. The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 may apply.)
  4. The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
  5. The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
  6. It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note "WP:" redirects are in the Wikipedia namespace, WP: being an alias for Wikipedia:.) Speedy deletion criterion R2 may also apply.
  7. If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8, though you should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first.
  8. If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects from a foreign language title to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.
  9. If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then it needs to be deleted to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
  10. If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.

Reasons for not deleting[edit]

However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

  1. They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
  2. They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links.
  3. They aid searches on certain terms. For example, if someone sees the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but does not know what that refers to, then he or she will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
  4. You risk breaking incoming or internal links by deleting the redirect. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them.
  5. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. The pageviews tool can also provide evidence of outside utility.
  6. The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.

Neutrality of redirects[edit]

Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names. Perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is therefore not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}.

Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:

  1. Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. ClimategateClimatic Research Unit email controversy).
  2. Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
  3. The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.

The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.

Closing notes[edit]

Details at: Administrator instructions for RfD.

Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).

How to list a redirect for discussion[edit]

Tag the redirect.

  Enter {{subst:rfd|content= at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter }} at the very end.

  • Please do not mark the edit as minor (m).
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase:
    Nominated for RFD: see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]].
  • Save the page.
  • If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
  • If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding |showontransclusion=1 to the rfd tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination
List the entry on RfD.

 Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.

  • Enter this text below the date heading:
{{subst:rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.}} ~~~~
  • For this template:
    • Put the redirect's name in place of RedirectName, put the target article's name in place of TargetArticle, and include a reason after text=.
    • Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the current target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after text=).
  • Please use an edit summary such as:
    Nominating [[RedirectName]]
    (replacing RedirectName with the name of the redirect you are nominating).
  • To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects:
{{subst:rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectNameN|target=TargetArticleN|text=The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.}} ~~~~
  • If the redirect has had previous RfDs, you can add {{Oldrfdlist|previous RfD without brackets|result of previous RfD}} directly after the rfd2 template.
Notify users.

  It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors to the redirect that you are nominating the redirect.

To find the main contributors, look in the page history of the redirect. For convenience, the template

{{subst:Rfd notice|RedirectName}} ~~~~

may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the redirect and use an edit summary such as:
Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]

A notices about the RFD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.

  • Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.

Current list[edit]

June 3[edit]

German causalties in World War I[edit]

Likely mispelling, but unsure if it should be kept. German casualties in World War I does not exist as a redirect, but seems like a better name for redirection. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:34, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • (creator) mistake on my part. Should be moved without redirect to German casualties in World War I or deleted because it will lead other editors into misspellings. buidhe 18:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Blaze (2022 film)[edit]

Redirect left from a page move to correct a misspelling of "Blade (2022 film)". Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:49, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Abdul Matin Chowdhury, Shaikh-e-Fulbari[edit]

Hardly is this going to serve as a redirect. Shaikh-e-Fulbari may help however. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Units of length with number 1[edit]

I've retargeted the similar redirects from micro-, milli-, centi-, and decimeter to the articles about the units, but it seems there was consensus to redirect them to that list? If this is the case, they should point to sections. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:42, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

List of Liberian Americans[edit]

No list of Liberian Americans at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Even parity[edit]

Retarget to Parity (mathematics). The term does not only apply to parity bits. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:48, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget, even parity is a broader concept than just bits. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


Retarget to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Spelling/Words ending with "-ise" or "-ize" or rather to an existent section of the current target? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Circumorbital etc[edit]

These adjectives currently redirect to a particular use, but I'm not sure that's entirely appropriate given they have general-purpose meanings. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose deletion, as all these terms redirect to an article that describes then well enough to be useful to the reader. I haven't been able to find better general article(s) where these terms are described, but would be happy to consider such as new redirect targets. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 18:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Elendur son of Isildur[edit]

Only mention on the Wikipedia is at List of fictional last words in ""Forgive me, and my pride that has brought you to this doom." — Isildur in Unfinished Tales (J. R. R. Tolkien, 1980), to his son Elendur before attempting to escape the battle of the Gladden Fields with the One Ring.[13]" I don't think that content is helpful to anyone searching for information about this incredibly minor fictional figure. Hog Farm (talk) 21:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete as an implausible search term. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 02:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, I admit I actually said "who?" on seeing this. Not mentioned at target, nor should it be. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 03:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
That anchor and retarget would be for Isildur, who spoke the last words, not Elendur. So Delete remains the only option with any argument for it (and including nom, there would be three !votes already for Delete). Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap: Why WP:!votes and not WP:votes? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:57, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
None of the Wiki-consensus procedures are pure vote-counts, it's always by argument, which in this case is pretty much all on one side really. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete useless, essentially no information about this person on WP or likely to be added. buidhe 18:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Martuni, Azerbaijan[edit]

I am unable to determine whether Martuni is an alternate name for Yeni Göyçə. I am able to determine that Yeni Göyçə is an alternate name for Saler which oddly is a separate article. I suggest that unless there is positive evidence they're the same, the redirect is deleted as ambiguous (see Martuni disambiguation page). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete I too was unable to find a correspondence between the town of Yeni Göyçə and places named Martuni. It certainly isn't in Müräkkäb quruluşlu Azärbaycan toponimläri (2008) [Azerbaijani toponyms with complex structure]. --Bejnar (talk) 05:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Update I went back and checked the history of the redirect and the cited database at GEOnet Names Server refers to Martuni as an alternate name for Günəşli, Shamkir, which is nearby Yeni Göyçə. I have added that to the Martuni disambiguation page. However, because this entry is ambiguous, I still opt for delete and let the disambiguation page do its job. --Bejnar (talk) 06:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Comment it is not an alternate name for Yeni Göyçə. It is the former name of the nearby village Günəşli, Shamkir. See Update above. It appears, from the history section of the redirect that we are discussing, that a series of edits to a former article resulted in a misidentification when it went from article status to a redirect. Check it out.  --Bejnar (talk) 19:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
>The reason to delete is that the term is ambiguous, there is more than one place that it could refer to. However, none of them is Yeni Göyçə. The disambiguation page at Martuni works just fine as a navigational aid. --Bejnar (talk) 02:57, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 03:45, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a duly sourced mention can be added. signed, Rosguill talk 18:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I added a link from refrigerant. I suppose I could reference the Chemours web site, as it is their trademark. Or should it be to the USPTO? Gah4 (talk) 20:12, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Here is the Chemours web site on Opteon refrigerants. I have no connection to Chemours, so don't know if they plan to use the trademark only for Hydrofluoroolefins. As well as I know, it is intended for low GWP chemicals, which may or may not be HFO. Gah4 (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Gah4, Þjarkur, how about 2,3,3,3-Tetrafluoropropene? That page has IMO the most readily-digestible information about this subject, coupled with wikilinks to these other related subjects. signed, Rosguill talk 23:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
    • That appears to only be the product name "Opteon YF". But since according to Hydrofluoroolefin it's the main variant of the compound, I guess it's not a bad target. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
      • There are at least a few Opteons, some of which aren't refrigerants. It seems to be the beginning of a group of replacements for freons. Gah4 (talk) 06:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
      • Some more opteons are described here. Some are replacement for common solvents, such as TCE. Gah4 (talk) 06:52, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
      • It seems that Honeywell sells 1234ze, but under their Solstice trademark, instead of Opteon. Gah4 (talk) 07:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 19:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete as an overly generic, non-notable, tradename with no appropriate target. Remove any added text (see above) as overly specific. --Bejnar (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 03:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Industrial Intelligence Centre[edit]

Not mentioned in the target, except for in a title of a citation, so a reader who searches for this is left none the wiser as to what the Industrial Intelligence Centre was. Discounting others citing the same work, the only article mentioning this is Desmond Morton (civil servant), which says nothing substantial about the subject. My inquiry at Talk:Metro-Vickers Affair as to whether a mention could be added to that article hasn't had a response in the last month, so in the absence of any better options I think these should be deleted. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep - Only on NOTPAPER grounds. It's a pretty low probability search term, yes, but cost-free to leave in place, plausible at least, and will get the inquirer to the article where they need to go. Most likely scenario would be a search of the term by a native Russian speaker making a translated query. "Metro-Vickers affair" would be the common name for a search. Carrite (talk) 23:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete to encourage article creation. There's a whole chapter on it in this book. Narky Blert (talk) 14:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 03:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Temper Temper (Eric Wooden and Melaine Williams album)[edit]

For deletion; both the artist names are misspelt (correct names are Eric Gooden and Melanie Williams) and another redirect already exists here (with the incorrectly spelt Eric Wooden). Also the duo are credited as Temper Temper, not separately by their own names. ~ Hiddenstranger (talk) 03:06, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2[edit]

Rainy Men[edit]

This was created as an article about a song it claimed was on The Resistance by Muse, half a year after the album came out. However, this song is not on the album, and it does not seem to exist, as nothing comes up on Google about it when searching for "rainy men" muse. This redirect has no purpose, and should be deleted. DemonDays64 (talk) 23:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

  • Delete per nom, I'm not seeing anything relevant to Muse or anything else to retarget it to (most google hits seem to be scanoes and wet weather clothing for men). Thryduulf (talk) 23:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

W. Bush[edit]

Ambiguous with all the William Bushes and Wesley G. Bush. It may be a legitimate way of differentiating between the two Bush presidents but it does give off big ambiguity vibes. Retarget to Bush (surname) is my preferred option, but deleting this is fine. J947 [cont] 21:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

6 Articles[edit]

Retarget to Six Articles as ambiguous? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Agree. This proposal seems reasonable to me. Ltwin (talk) 23:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget per nom. "6 Articles" and "Six Articles" should not lead to different pages. Thryduulf (talk) 00:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget per nom as ambiguous. J947 [cont] 00:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Template:R from missing punctuation[edit]

If the punctuation is missing, is it a misspelling? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Template:R from slang term[edit]

Should point to the same target. Note that Template:R from colloquial name exists. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • There might be a strong argument for deletion of the second nom, {{R from slang}}. These were created by the same editor, who made both of these on the same day two minutes apart, and who hasn't edited since early 2014. The first nom, {{R from slang term}}, may have possibilities of becoming an rcat template; however, I see no need for two such similar redirects. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 12:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

Paris of the South[edit]

This nickname is neither unique to Asheville nor mentioned in the article. Google does give hits for Asheville, but also for Buenos Aires, Nice, Barcelona and New Orleans, the latter the only mention in article body text I can find (at List of city nicknames in Louisiana, it is the title of a reference at Buenos Aires). I'm torn between deletion and a List of cities nicknamed Paris of the South. Given the lack of article space mentions I'm not certain a dab page is best, but I'm not opposed if people prefer that option. Thryduulf (talk) 18:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Md Mushfiqur Rahman[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, note also that this redirect was created by a user that has since been blocked for spamming. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:45, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete per nom. I don't see any connection of this doctor (assuming "Md" actually meant for M.D.) to the college in question. The title of the redirect is not helpful either, as there are a lot of doctors named Mushfiqur Rahman from different universities and colleges. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 02:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. I would assume "Md" is for Mohammad, but that doesn't help. No-one's going to learn anything about him at the target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:31, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Kazi Kamrul Hasan[edit]

While the target mentions a "Syed Kamrul", there's no full matches for this name. Searching online, "Kazi Kamrul Hasan" appears to be the name of a recording artist with no obvious connection with the current target. Note also that the editor that created this redirect has since been blocked for spam/advertising. I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 18:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

ContentBarrier X4 and Personal Backup X4[edit]

These are not mentioned at the target. Cleaning up the last two Intego product version redirects after VirusBarrier version RfD resulted in delete. -- 2pou (talk) 16:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


A redirect to a list article which purports to require that only applications with a full article may be listed there. Apart from the redirect and the redirect target, this Twitter app is mentioned only at Ashton Kutcher, a celebrity endorser who doesn't represent a useful target either. There is no real content about this app anywhere on Wikipedia, and helping readers to find nothing is useless. (talk) 15:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Steiermark Grand Prix[edit]

These redirects were created as placeholders when the new 2020 F1 season calendar was announced per convention. However, the name has since been corrected to Styrian GP rather than Steiermark GP so these redirects are no longer necessary. No articles point to them.
5225C (talkcontributions) 10:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak keep. But retarget to 2020 Styrian Grand Prix. Note that this retargeting did already happen but was reverted by the nominator. Seems like a plausible search term. Steiermark is the native name of Styria and it its native language its called the "Großer Preis der Steiermark".Tvx1 13:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't have a problem with retargetting, but that edit caused a conflict which I had to overwrite to list it here.
    5225C (talkcontributions) 22:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes I see. Both the edits in question happened around the same time. Nevertheless you could still have changed the redirect target in the edit window when the edit conflict popped up before saving the page.Tvx1 11:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Goidelic (Gaelic) languages[edit]

Unnecessary disambiguation. See this and this. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:34, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep. This formatting does have some usage. Some examples for attestation purposes include: [1][2][3][4]. For what it's worth, this was suggested to be the title of the article back in 2005. -- Tavix (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedily deleted

Howard–Englewood–Jackson Park Line (CTA)[edit]

Previously used only in a template, this redirect is no longer used, and not useful. Punctuation is wrong (hyphens should be dashes); case is wrong (Line is never capped in this context in sources); unnecessary disambiguator (CTA) would never be used in a link. Might as well remove the temptation. Dicklyon (talk) 06:22, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Characters of Negima (other characters)[edit]

These redirects don't specify what characters are meant to be excluded (there is a section about other antagonists, but I'm not sure about refining there), and could potentially confuse readers. Regards, SONIC678 04:58, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete I don't see any useful purpose in the existence of this redirect. -GTBacchus(talk) 11:11, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete per GTBacchus. The pageview statistics of these redirects show very low usage (like this for the first redirect). Characters of Negima (Other characters) didn't even have any view at all in the past 90 days except for 2 June 2020. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 02:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Characters of Blood+ (other characters)[edit]

Last year in February, this redirect's "Other characters" sister was deleted, and this one's section...doesn't seem to exist, at least anymore. Like the other one, it's still unclear what "other" characters it's meant to exclude. Regards, SONIC678 04:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete - I don't see any useful purpose in the existence of this redirect. -GTBacchus(talk) 11:12, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete per nom, GTBacchus, and my argument at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 2#Characters of Negima (other characters). This one doesn't have any pageview in the last 90 days except for 2 June. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 02:45, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Smash the House redirects[edit]

Not mentioned in the target. No reasonable target can be found that describes these artists. More abandoned redirects by Zawl, and were formerly listed here but removed by Alexf per WP:NLIST. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete unless some information about the subject of the redirect, with at least one reliable source, can be added to the target. I did a Google search for Dave Till, and didn't find such a source connecting him to Smash the House.—Anne Delong (talk) 04:33, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

National Democrats (Norway)[edit]

There is no indication in the target article that this party was known by this title, which is ambiguous (see National Democrats (Norway, 1991)) Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete to encourage article creation. The first revision of the redirect says this was another party that formed in 2006 and in 2007 merged with the one that the target article centers on. I did find a copy of the article on, which lists some sources. If it can't plausibly be expanded into an article, merge any relevant history if it's deleted. Regards, SONIC678 14:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep and revert from redirect to article. When a redirect was made, an article about a political party was deleted. Such a deletion should be conducted after an AFD discussion, or not at all. Geschichte (talk) 10:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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Beacon Communications[edit]

The article does not mention why this redirects here, and there is no mention of "Beacon Communications" at [5]. The term is ambiguous with Beacon Communications Corporation and Beacon Communications (publisher). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Comment The page for the filmmaker was originally at Beacon Communications because that was the company's former name (see, e.g., the IMDB page for Air Force One -- scroll down to "Company Credits". I created this redirect more than a decade ago when working on articles about newspapers because even with the name change, I figured more people would know "Beacon Communications" as the producer of blockbuster films than would know about a couple very small publishers of local newspapers. Some connection to the filmmaking company should be kept -- perhaps this should be a dab page with links to all three articles. ``` t b w i l l i e ` $1.25 ` 23:58, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
My updated choice, thanks to Shhhnotsoloud. There is now a citation for "Beacon Communications, LLC" at Beacon Pictures. --Bejnar (talk) 15:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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Digital content creation tools[edit]

Way too vague, could refer to dozens of things besides 3d graphics. Suggest deleting. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 04:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete for now, as too amorphous for DAB, no good target hence no navigational value. --Bejnar (talk) 04:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Delete. Hopelessly ambiguous, could be anything. Narky Blert (talk) 13:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Sharktooth Hill[edit]

This term is not mentioned in the target article except in a reference. Is it the same as Sharktooth Peak, also in California? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:37, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

note STH is a fairly well known fossil site in the Temblor of Kern County, CA. References to the site can be found in both scholarly journals and general online searches. It is distinct from Sharktooth Peak. Ryan shell (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Comment Perhaps Ryan shell would be willing to use some of those reliable sources to add to the target an appropriate paragraph (or sentence) on significant outcrops of the Temblor Formation. --Bejnar (talk) 03:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
There is a line in the intro referencing STH as a significant outcrop within the formation; I can reinforce that with a few academic refs Ryan shell (talk) 20:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Keep it is an accurate target, and serves a navigational purpose. The Temblor Formation article just needs some work. --Bejnar (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Butt stuff[edit]

Not mentioned at target article and could also technically mean Poop. Not sure what to do with this one. OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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Anial sex[edit]

The "i" is far from the "n" and "a" on the QWERTY keyboard making this look like an unlikely search term. Delete unless a justification can be proven. OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete, probably a misspelling. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 22:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete as misspelt and ambiguous: could also be a typo for animal sex. Narky Blert (talk) 07:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is a misspelling (and should be tagged as such), but based on 106 page views last year and no shortage of google hits for the exact term it appears to be a common one. While "animal sex" might seem equally plausible, the google results show it is not used in that sense. Thryduulf (talk) 10:43, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
    A misspelling from which? One too many letters or one too few? Narky Blert (talk) 13:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
    As I said, a misspelling from "Anal sex" is the only one that actually sees usage. This might be because "anal sex" is a much more frequently used term than "animal sex" but it doesn't matter why one is used and the other not, only that in practice this isn't ambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 13:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
    How do you know? Narky Blert (talk) 17:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    Because in 100% of the uses I found in searches the meaning was very clearly anal sex not animal sex - as I said initially. If you can find significant use to mean "animal sex" then I will reconsider, but as it stands the evidence is clear. Thryduulf (talk) 18:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    How is "anial" a misspelling for "anal"? "animal" I can understand. The "i" on a US EN QWERTY keyboard is nowhere near the space between A and N keys. Perhaps if it were "anail", but that'd be trivial. -- Tytrox (talk) 10:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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  • @Tytrox: I don't know why people spell it that way, but that doesn't matter. The only thing that is relevant is that based on all the evidence we have people do use this spelling to find content about "anal sex" and they don't use it to find content about "animal sex". Thryduulf (talk) 10:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Public Service (TV series)[edit]

Virtually no page history in the last year. It is mentioned in the Conception section of the article so either retarget to there or delete. OcelotCreeper (talk) 19:21, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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June 1[edit]

HV & C.V. Quick[edit]

Hit enter by accident, supposed to be moved to HV & CV Quick Sb008 (talk) 22:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep. Harmless redirect. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 22:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    It's wrong, either "H.V. & C.V." or "HV & CV", but not "HV & C.V." or "H.V. & CV". Nothing to do with staying safe. --Sb008 (talk) 01:14, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Stay safe is an automatic part of Prahlad balaji's signature. J947 [cont] 02:14, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Sb008, please read RHARMFUL and K4. If a reader searches this {{R from incorrect name}} up, they are highly helped by being automatically targeted to the page they are looking for. What is to be gained by deleting this redirect? J947 [cont] 02:14, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep - It may not be exactly correct, but it's a reasonable error, and it will help users find the page. Hog Farm (talk) 04:06, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

EXo Platform[edit]

Per a prior AfD, EXo Platform appears to be a non-notable example of a virtual workplace. As it isn't mentioned at the current target other than in a citation to a user manual for the platform (which is not the greatest citation to be including in the article), I don't see a reason for keeping this redirect. signed, Rosguill talk 20:05, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


This page used to be used as a redirect from "O-glcnac" to "O-linked ß-N-acetyl-glucosamine", which has since been moved to "O-GlcNAc". As "O-glcnac" is just a variant of "O-GlcNAc" capitalization, there is no reason to keep this redirect and it should be deleted. Scheng23 (talk) 07:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

British Rail Class 804[edit]

Propose deletion, there was never any official confirmation that the class would be classified as the Class 804. None of the cites provided when the article was established mentioned the 804 classification, so does appear dubious at best. Article was renamed British Rail Class 810 when a reliable cite confirming the classification was published creating the direct. Meirtout (talk) 06:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Marsha Ann Shag[edit]

Almost certainly a hoax. See the most developed form of the article that use to exist at this title - [6]. I've seen the movie referenced, and there's no such scenes or cousin-lover plotline in it. Google searches bring up nothing about this "character", and other characters mentioned in the article, such as the teacher, don't bring up anything on Google either. Several attempts to add this character to Greg Heffley in the past, including several indeffed editors and the creator of this article. This is almost certainly a hoax. Hog Farm (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete, I guess it could have been speedied as a hoaxlet. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:04, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Rubbish. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 22:39, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Xiao En[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, searching online did not return results suggesting that these names are equivalent. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: Rosguill, I checked the article on the same topic in the Chinese Wikipedia. It seems Xiao En is the mandarin transliteration of 萧恩, which (according to that article) is the pseudonym (化名) of Ruan Xiaoqi. It is true the term Xiao En returns few (if any) results in English, but the Chinese term 萧恩 is mentioned in a few sources to refer to Ruan Xiaoqi: 1, 2. Not voting though as I am not too familiar with the protocol at RfDs (I'm more into AfDs), but as a Chinese speaker, I thought this might me a piece of useful information for you (or other editors) to decide the fate of this redirect. --Dps04 (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Dps04, that's a good enough argument to keep to sway me. I'll leave this open until the 7-day period has elapsed in case anyone else familiar with Chinese wants to weigh in, but I'm ok with this being closed as keep if no one does. signed, Rosguill talk 19:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I've added relevant information to the article, following the Chinese Wikipedia article's example. Deryck C. 20:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Actually, on second thoughts, delete. Special:Search/"Xiao En"~ revealed that not only is this fictional character 蕭恩 mentioned across multiple articles of partially overlapping fictional universes, there is also a marginally notable Malaysian charity named Xiao En 孝恩 which is mentioned in multiple articles. And then there are multiple people with given name "Xiao En" / "Xiao'en". Delete to reveal search results. Deryckchan (talk) 03:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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Longest sea beach in the world[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect:

Here's another one recreated after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 13#Xest Y. It's not the longest beach, that belongs to Praia do Cassino. "Sea beach" doesn't have a formal definition, but I would take it to mean "a beach on the sea". Well, it's on the Bay of Bengal...which is a bay. -- Tavix (talk) 01:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Who said it's the longest? --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 22:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Prahlad balaji: You can find sources calling Cox's Bazar the longest beach: here is a BBC article documenting Bangladesh's government using this as an international tourist campaign. -- Tavix (talk) 14:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Tavix But as you stated above, there is no formal definition for "sea beach". --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 14:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Okay? That's a completely different point than your question "Who said it's the longest?", which is what I was responding to. -- Tavix (talk) 15:14, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete unless there unambiguously is a longest sea beach (which is a tougher call because coastlines are continuous and constantly changing), and even then it's not exactly a likely record that would be searched, and could open the door to many more redirects of the "Xest Y" sort. ComplexRational (talk) 14:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

May 31[edit]

Donald Trumpi[edit]

Not sure why this redirects as it makes no sense and could be a typo for Donald Trump or a name in a different language 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 23:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep. Harmless. Three species listed on the page contain the term "donaldtrumpi". BD2412 T 23:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep, rather tentatively – this could be a misspelling for Donald Trump but his article is linked prominently on the page anyhow. For readers unfamiliar with taxonomic nomenclature and knowing at least the basics around these species, this would be a helpful redirect. J947 [cont] 04:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. A hatnote on the target article would be useful. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 11:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Such a hatnote would look exceedingly stupid, especially given Trump's article is already prominently linked on the page in question. J947 [cont] 18:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Tantalus V. Observatory[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 21:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep - As the name of the fictional planetarium in the episode. The planetarium is named Tantalus V. Observatory. Koridas (...Puerto Rico for statehood!) 01:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Neither Tantalus or observatories are mentioned at the target page. Readers using this redirect will not find any information about "Tantalus V. Observatory". Not a very active user (talk) 16:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


Not sure the surname of one of the policemen involved in this death is a useful redirect, especially when a handful of other articles mention people named Hankison. signed, Rosguill talk 21:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep or retarget - Keep or retarget. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    • @Jax 0677: It is not helpful nor useful to leave a comment without any explanation. If you think it should be retargeted, you need to at least say where. -- Tavix (talk) 00:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
      • Reply - If there is no suitable target, then keep the redirect, as it seems to be the only target for this term. I did not see other people named Hankison on Wikipedia, although "Hankinson" may be a plausible target. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete There are a few people with the last name Hankison on Wikipedia, and this one is not any more noteworthy than any others. -- Tavix (talk) 00:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Link to Hankison mentions for convenience. J947 [cont] 04:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Thoroughly inappropriate to redirect from a surname to an article about someone else. Let the search tool do its job. We have no article on anyone called Hankison. If we ever do, this will be needed as a {{R from surname}} page, Narky Blert (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Irish flu[edit]

WP:NEOLOGISM, doesn't seem to be widely used in reliable sources, also found a few uses of this phrase to refer to the flu in Ireland. Hog Farm (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment I think I've heard of it but it's not very common. Wikipedia is not Urban Dictionary anyways. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, confusing because real flu also exists in Ireland and has nothing to do with hangovers. Not a very active user (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Category:Fraternities and soronities in France[edit]

Mispelled, unlikely to be searched. Naraht (talk) 20:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak keep In some typefaces, "ri" looks visually similar to "n", so I wouldn't say it's too implausible to occur in accidental transcriptions or by people visually impaired and/or unaware of the correct spelling. ComplexRational (talk) 14:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Spanish music[edit]

French music and English music are disambiguation pages listing Music of France and Music of England, as well as various musical traditions in those respective languages. I don't see why Spanish music should be treated any differently, particularly where there are substantial genres of music in the Spanish language that are not from Spain (e.g., most Latin music), and music from Spain that is instrumental, and therefore not in a specific language. BD2412 T 18:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • I guess Spanish music may not necessarily refers only to music of Spain, but Music of Latin America and Latin music are not exactly the same as Spanish music given that they include Portuguese and Brazilian music. It is possible to turn it into a disambiguation page, but we need to be careful with explaining the entries in the page. Hzh (talk) 11:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    • I fixed many links clearly intending music of Spain, but most of what is left are American radio stations whose genre is identified as "Spanish music"; it is highly doubtful that these stations are actually focused on "music of Spain", so these were already errors arising from the ambiguity of the link, and needing to be fixed. BD2412 T 18:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


Not mentioned in the target or in any other article. Contemporary uses of "paraontology" (e.g. [7], [8]) don't seem to draw on Becker's thought. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

How about [9]? It seems that "paraontologie" was a neologism in German coined by Becker.[10] More a case of also needing paraontologie redirected? Anyway, no need to be deleting anything, rather than expanding the article. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
If expanding the article is a possibility I'd certainly support it. Even better, I think, would be to create an article on Nahum Chandler, whose work seems to be at the centre of current uses of the term, and who presumably at least acknowledges Becker. But at the same time, it's an obscure term, and a redirect which currently provides the reader with no useful information, so I don't think deletion would be the end of the world. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 11:14, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Really, I don't see that it is harmful. A long discussion here would be more effort than just adding a sentence or two to the article. But it is a placeholder, and why is that a problem? Charles Matthews (talk) 11:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I have added a Paraontologie subsection to Oskar Becker, as some sort of fix. The Becker article clearly needs to be worked over and referenced, anyway. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
That works for me. I'm happy to withdraw this if no one else objects. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Beer shits[edit]

Not mentioned at target article. Delete unless a justification can be proven. OcelotCreeper (talk) 16:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Aivo Lucioli[edit]

very likely typo, although used here: [11] Estopedist1 (talk) 15:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete Three years ago I moved the page, because the name was clearly misspelled. In my opinion there is no reason to even have a redirect, it would be like Vaelntino Rossi Face-smile.svg --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:47, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    Since you were the creator of the article before it was moved, I'm tagging it per G7. OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep; when a reader looks at the Sports Reference page for this athlete and searches him up here then they are very much helped by this redirect. See RHARMFUL, K4, and K5. This is a plausible misspelling if a highly-used website has done it, thus I've removing the G7 tag. J947 [cont] 04:47, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    @J947: Having read CSD G7, I'd really like to know what all the exceptions are for denying a G7 request. The second sentence clearly states "For redirects created as a result of a page move, the mover must also have been the only substantive contributor to the pages before the move.", which this fits. OcelotCreeper (talk) 14:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    @OcelotCreeper: CSD is only for the most unambiguous of scenarios. Given a reputable website has made this particular mistake, this is by no means an unambiguous scenario. From CSD: Administrators should take care not to speedily delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases. Also, please adhere to MOS:LISTGAP. J947 [cont] 18:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Uanmbiguously cerated in error. Narky Blert (talk) 14:39, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per nom. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Huron Elks[edit]

Intercollegiate baseball team team pointing to an article about a professional team. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Basin League#elks as there is a non-trivial content about this team there, that will unambiguously help the readers. J947 [cont] 04:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Deprecated sources[edit]

Recently created WP:XNR to project space. Izno (talk) 12:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete as a XNR without a real other usage. Really should be eligible for CSD R2. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

list of members of the National Assembly (South Korea), 2016–present[edit]

These redirects are false information. List of members of the National Assembly (South Korea), 2016–2020 is not the present list. These should be deleted. Sawol (talk) 10:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. When 2020 (the present year, to be fair) ends, it won't be relevant to redirect this title there, since the present is constantly changing. Regards, SONIC678 14:53, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Burlington Athletics[edit]

Collegiate baseball team redirecting to a minor league baseball article that the team has no connection to. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

One Day[edit]

Absolutely no mention of the song on its target article and a quick Goolge search leads to no results apart of speculative lyrics pages. No confirmation that this song exists. -- Lk95 06:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete song dosent exists. TheImaCow (talk) 07:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


Retarget to Goidelic languages. Old Irish is not the only Goidelic language. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:35, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


The "Ogt" redirect page should be deleted. There is already an existing disambiguation page "OGT" that includes the "AGT II" page in addition to offering other suggestions, making it easier for people to access other pages with the search "ogt". Currently, "ogt" automatically redirects to the "AGT II" page and does not go to the disambiguation page. Scheng23 (talk) 06:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to DAB page OGT, tagging as {{R from other capitalisation}} and {{R from ambiguous term}}. There are many precedents for this, e.g. Iot is a redirect to DAB page IOT. Narky Blert (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    Sounds reasonable to me. Scheng23 (talk) 02:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak retarget to OGT per Narky, though there is an argument for WP:DIFFCAPS. Second choice keep as is. J947 [cont] 18:55, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete if the search engine would then direct the user right to the OGT disambiguation page. That page would also need an adjustment, since the redirect appears there. Redirecting would have the same effect, though, just an extra step invisible to the user.—Anne Delong (talk) 10:57, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


Finding no evidence this is a term used commonly, most of what I'm turning up is on Pinterest, although it is used in a publication titled "Transvestigation In Hollywood (Illuminati Secrets Revealed, #2)", which also doesn't seem reliable. Hog Farm (talk) 04:34, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete I've heard of this - it's a specific type of conspiracy theory that alleges that all celebrities and politicians are secretly transgender. However, it is not mentioned in the article and shouldn't be because no reliable sources have covered it, so delete. Spicy (talk) 15:33, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    I think it is or was a YouTube channel too. It's one of the more stupid conspiracy theories anyways. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete and probably Salt - It's not notable enough (it doesn't have much of any reliable sources and I believe it's some youtube channel too) and doesn't have any entry on the target page. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. It was mentioned in the article, though without a source, at the time the redirect was created, but was subsequently removed. --Bsherr (talk) 16:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

300 MPG Carburetor Conspiracy[edit]

Not mentioned at target article, delete unless indication that this is important enough to be mentioned in the target article can be provided. Hog Farm (talk) 04:31, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Talking donkey[edit]

Ambiguous, there's also Balaam's donkey to consider. Delete, as no real dab targets. Hog Farm (talk) 04:28, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

There's also Puzzle in C. S. Lewis' The Last Battle. Narky Blert (talk) 13:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
(And there's G. K. Chesterton's poem "The Donkey", which we don't seem to mention anywhere.) Narky Blert (talk) 13:34, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
On second (or even third) thoughts, perhaps disambiguate. I've added a draft. Narky Blert (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
@Narky Blert: I wouldn't consider those to be ambiguous terms. Rather, they appear to be examples of a class, all of which are or should be covered in Cultural references to donkeys. BD2412 T 23:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
@BD2412: I like the idea, but can't see an easy way of accommodating the idea in Cultural references to donkeys. Nonetheless, my draft DAB feels like disambiguation between examples of a concept rather than titles.
There's also "Der Kuckuck und der Esel" (a singing contest between a cuckoo and a donkey) and the folk song "Lob des hohen Verstandes" (transl. "In Praise of High Intellect", a singing competition between a cuckoo and a nightingale in which the cuckoo disingenuously proposed a donkey as arbiter). The latter poem was included by Achim and Brentano in their collection Des Knaben Wunderhorn, and was set to music by Gustav Mahler in his song collection also called Des Knaben Wunderhorn. Narky Blert (talk) 18:47, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete or maybe Disambiguate as ambiguous. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

May 30[edit]


Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

General Disarray[edit]

A problem. A WP:XY problem because the redirect points to the character Dougie (who plays the character), but could also point to the episode the character came from, Professor Chaos. Koridas (...Puerto Rico for statehood!) 21:01, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Burlington Cardinals[edit]

Redirect to a page that doesn't mention the subject, or even the city involved. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 21:01, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per this link from Baseball-Reference. Appears to have been a collegiate "Northern League" this team was part of, not one of the various Minor League Baseball incarnations named "Northern League". Wrong league, we don't have an article about the right one. Hog Farm (talk) 04:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Rachel Kapelski[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, not a member of the band that recorded it. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:44, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 20:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep - "Rachel Kapelski" is mentioned in the song "Normal Chicks" on the album "Lunch. Drunk. Love." --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:32, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not mentioned either at the current target or anywhere else in English WP, so no-one following this link will find any useful information. Aloysius Umbongo N’Danga O’Reilly (namechecked in "Baguette Dilemma for the Booker Prize Guy") has no redirect, and quite right too - that's what fansites are for. Narky Blert (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia Foundation[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Estimate of the Situation[edit]

I don't think we should assume that someone who searches for "Estimate of the Situation" on Wikipedia is looking for an article about ufology. —S Marshall T/C 22:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Estimate (disambiguation).—S Marshall T/C 22:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget Agreed. this is too general a term to redirect to one (rather fringe and minor) use of it.Slatersteven (talk) 10:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. This redirect is ambiguous (and badly capitalised) and may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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Corona pandemic[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

May 29[edit]

Remineralize The Earth[edit]

deletion because a red link is needed for remineralize the earth so that a new article can detail the work undertaken by this non-profit organization. Mfbx5sf62 (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment This can easily be done by overwriting the redirect. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:32, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Procedural keep This is a perfectly valid redirect for now that provides information about the organization. @Mfbx5sf62: Are you trying to create an article yourself, or are you hoping that a red link will encourage someone else to do so? I dont think the latter works in this case because someone will already find pertinent info that is not misleading. If you want to create the article, you have two easy ways to do so:
  1. Simply click edit on the redirect to make an article directly (maybe even WP:BOLDly copy/paste split the section saying where the content came from to start)
  2. Start a draft at Draft:Remineralize the Earth, and once the page is ready, either submit through WP:AfC (preferred for new editors), or request a move to overwrite the redirect at WP:RM/TR
-2pou (talk) 05:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

What you see is what you get[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: uncontroversial retarget

Clerical abuse[edit]

This is not confined to Catholicism. Hog Farm (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

The Land Before Time XV[edit]

Unconfirmable WP:CRYSTAL. All third-party search results for this seem to return fan-made ideas without any references to anything concretely official. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Narky Blert (talk) 13:37, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. since it does not exist, and although it may be a reasonable search for a fan to make, it serves no navigational function, and otherwise the fan would go to "The Land Before Time" to look for additional sequels. --Bejnar (talk) 17:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

The Land Before Time Began[edit]

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Tree Stars[edit]

Unclear what this refers to... Steel1943 (talk) 21:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete, a minor fictional name for tree leaves. A Google search mostly brings up results for a brand of weed. Hog Farm (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Rocket launch site[edit]

The term "rocket launch site" is summarized on spaceport, not on the target article. Better retargeting it to spaceport. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 14:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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  • Keep as is. I have to agree with Shhhnotsoloud on this one. The list is not descriptive, but it is an accurate target, and depending upon what the searcher is looking for, may be the solution he or she seeks. If not, the lead-in there gives enough information for the seeker to get to Spaceport. --Bejnar (talk) 07:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Charlie and the Party Smashers[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, when searching online the only results are Wikipedia metadata generated by this redirect. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. Enwiki has no information about the subject. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

BGY plan[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Overshoot (epidemiology)[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy retarget

Gangsta rap (disambiguation)[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy retarget

Bum gravy[edit]

A Google search does not seem to indicate that this is a common term, or that it is used exclusively for diarrhea. Google search brought up various sexual practices, a NN band that produced an album titled "Excretion", and a prank about Nutella. Not commonly used for this topic Hog Farm (talk) 18:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Midnight crazies[edit]

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Not mentioned at the target, no hits on Google Scholar. The spelling suggests that it could be a German term, but there's no entry on deWiki either. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 21:37, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. I could find nothing at all. The German names for Moldavia/Moldova and so on all derive from "Moldau", and changing -au to -er strikes me as highly implausible; it's not how German works. I can find no evidence that "mold", "molde", "molden" or "molder" exist in German. Narky Blert (talk) 04:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Hello guys, sorry I left the job unfinished, after the redirection I should have added more relevant info on the Moldavia article, which now | I have just done. Thank you and sorry for any incoveniences. 13:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caliniuc (talkcontribs)
@3125A: It's probably not a good idea for someone who has a problematic line-stretching signature to tell someone to "use your signature correctly". To answer the "Who is this?" question, that can be answered by looking at the page history. The edit was made by Caliniuc at 13:38, 13 May 2020. Using {{unsigned}} would be a better way to resolve the issue, which I am applying with this edit to show how it's done. -- Tavix (talk) 15:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Delete "Molderland" was not directly sourced (inference only), and could be regarded as insulting. --Bejnar (talk) 04:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Delete per nom; almost nonexistent search term. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 18:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Murder of George Floyd[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

BeritaSatu Medan and O Channel Medan[edit]

Delete, because AFAIK BeritaSatu and O Channel currently do not have regional transmitters in Medan -ArdiPras95 (talk) 07:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


Spitzmauskc proposed this redirect for deletion with the following rationale. Misleading redirect to PK-35 Vantaa, implying that any instance of “PK-35” is a specific reference to that club. “PK-35” is most commonly used when referring to the independent football club of that name based in Helsinki, whereas the name “PK-35 Vantaa” is most commonly used when referring to the independent football club based in Vantaa, Finland. Both clubs field teams in the Kansallinen Liiga and the common forms of their names can be seen in use here: (in Finnish). signed, Rosguill talk 06:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:48, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate as above. GiantSnowman 10:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate there's 3 topics at the moment on this wiki which it could refer to. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

COVID-02 epidemic[edit]

This, this, and this. CrazyBoy826 03:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Lettic Germans[edit]

As far as I can establish, the term "Lettic Germans" doesn't exist in English, so doesn't constitute a plausible search term Ingratis (talk) 03:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ingratis: the analogue is Estonian Germans, which is a redirect at the moment. Maybe both should be deleted. Compare eg Estonian diaspora in Germany (et:Saksamaa eestlased)--Estopedist1 (talk) 11:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Estopedist1: - Apologies - I've not made myself clear. The problem I'm having is not with the concept, but specifically with the word "Lettic". If what is intended here is "ethnic Germans in Latvia", it needs to be "Latvian Germans" (or in theory "Lettonian Germans", or if you want to be really old-fashioned, "Lettish Germans"). "Lettic" is a really rare word and in practice seems to apply almost exclusively to linguistics (whatever Wiktionary may say). The reason why I don't see any point in it as a redirect is that it's so unlikely as a search term. Ingratis (talk) 11:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

May 28[edit]

Warworld (Transformers)[edit]

Found since it points to a WP:Broken section anchor, but this is not mentioned at the current target or any of its prior targets. -- 2pou (talk) 17:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  • There has never been a section "Warworld" on List of fictional spacecraft, so the current target is clearly wrong. Retarget to Transformers: Generation 2 (comics) where the craft actually appears. JIP | Talk 20:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment I was considering closing this, but I wasn't able to find any mention of Warworld at the proposed topic and am thus uncertain of the suitability of the suggested retarget. signed, Rosguill talk 21:09, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    • It does appear in the comic, the Wikipedia article just doesn't mention it. TFWiki has a full article about the ship, which clearly mentions it appears in the comic. JIP | Talk 21:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Delete. There are a couple of mentions of "Warworld" in the context of Transformers but singling out one target would be confusing, and a reader is better served by Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)


Not mentioned at the target. Delete unless a duly sourced mention or some other justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  • delete per WP:REDLINK. This is a song by a notable Filipino band called "Rizal Underground" which also has no article at --Lenticel (talk) 00:29, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep, as there is now a sourced mention provided in the article. LionFosset (talk) 06:25, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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Working Pearl[edit]

Delete. The only result Google gives me is a poorly-maintained, unsourced, fan-run wiki claiming it was an original title for the episode. I've heard of this rumor before but have never found any proof for it. Scrooge200 (talk) 01:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  • But if some people think that, doesn't that make it a plausible search term? Therefore Keep unless there are ambiguity issues. A7V2 (talk) 03:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete Not mentioned in reliable sources a Wiki is not a reliable source especially since the claim is unsourced and poorly maintained 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 10:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand your rationale. By keeping this redirect no-one is claiming that the claim is true, but if, as the nominator suggests, they've "heard of this rumor before" then isn't it plausible that someone would think that's what the episode was called and so search for it and then thanks to the redirect find what they were looking for? A7V2 (talk) 13:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I mean I've only heard it on other wikis, always without a source. This episode is officially called Bossy Boots and it has a title card before the episode, and is called such on online streaming services and TV listings, so I think most people are going to be searching for Bossy Boots instead of Working Pearl. Scrooge200 (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
If you look at the history of Bossy Boots it looks like Wikipedia was one of the first places where this appeared back in 2006. And "most people are going to be searching for" is not a reason to delete a redirect. If it was, then that would be 99% of redirects deleted. I've never heard of this before, but certainly just taking a quick look at it it appears to be something which may or may not be true, but definitely is something that some people believe to be true, and so potentially they will search for it (and if it is true that some broadcasters incorrectly used this name then that's what they would search for). WP:RFD reason for not deleting number 5 is "Someone finds them useful". It's definitely plausible that someone might find this useful. A7V2 (talk) 00:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Delete. Not mentioned at the target (or anywhere else), so a reader who follows this link will find no information about it. Narky Blert (talk) 14:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Horain[edit]

Not mentioned at the target, or anywhere else on Wikipedia as far as I can tell. I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Not mentioned at the target, doesn't appear to refer to anything from this film. Mega Maid is a character mentioned at Spaceballs, albeit a rather minor one. I think that we should either redirect to there or delete the redirect. signed, Rosguill talk 20:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. Enwiki has nothing about "Megamaid". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:30, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Sexual abuse of Aaron Carter[edit]

No mention of sexual abuse at the target. If no sources can be provided to substantiate claims of abuse at the target, then this is a violation of BLP policy and should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 20:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom, possible speedy under WP:G10 (attack/libel). Narky Blert (talk) 14:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete G10 The redirect constitutes a massive BLP violation and IMO qualifies under CSD G10 as material about a BLP subject that is negative in tone and unsourced. Spicy (talk) 21:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete per above. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 21:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Is it really that hard to find a source? (There's plenty more.) Also – the abuse may be highly unconfirmed, but note RNEUTRAL. J947 [cont] 21:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • "No mention of sexual abuse at the target" - Are we looking at the same article? The last paragraph of the section the redirect points to is "Prior to her death, Leslie was planning to go to rehab to overcome her drug addiction with help from younger brother Aaron Carter.[8] In 2018, Aaron said his sister raped him for three years, from the ages of 10 to 13.[9]" I'm not claiming that citation number 9 is reliable or whatever but it is a link to Entertainment Tonight. Surely if there are BLP concerns then this section should be removed from the article rather than just remove this redirect? A7V2 (talk) 23:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Sean Hawk[edit]

This redirect should be deleted as the target page makes no mention of a "Sean Hawk" or "Lieutenant Hawk". —Mahāgaja · talk 13:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 16:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Enwiki has nothing about a person or character with this name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Steriruncitruncated 6-demicube[edit]

No mention at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

It can be deleted. Tom Ruen (talk) 13:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Nothing links to this, and that character doesn't exist on any normal keyboard, so unlikely anyone would search for Engliſh rather than English. If you know what ſ means, then you'll know how to spell English Joseph2302 (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Implausible typo Joseph2302 (talk) 09:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 16:23, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep – Plausible misspelling. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:24, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Come on, it's a plausible misspelling (it's a single letter missing – it's easy to accidentally do)! It's clear that anyone who accidentally types this is trying to get to a page on "English". Also, the search bar isn't the only way to access articles on Wikipedia, fyi. Paintspot Infez (talk) 19:02, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


Don't need redirect for this Joseph2302 (talk) 09:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom; implausible search term and misspelling. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 16:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak retarget to Englisch, of which Wiktionary explains this is an alternative form, delete it if that doesn't work. Regards, SONIC678 23:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom; not an impossible misspelling, but one that the typist would catch right away, unlike some of the other redirects in this discussion. --Bejnar (talk) 17:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


Implausible typo Joseph2302 (talk) 09:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom; implausible search term and misspelling. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 16:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Come on, it's a plausible misspelling (it's a single letter missing – it's easy to accidentally do)! It's clear that anyone who accidentally types this is trying to get to a page on "English". Also, the search bar isn't the only way to access articles on Wikipedia, fyi. Paintspot Infez (talk) 19:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


Implausible typo Joseph2302 (talk) 09:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Implausible misspelling Joseph2302 (talk) 09:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom; implausible search term and misspelling. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 16:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Come on, it's a plausible misspelling (it's just two letters swapped – it's easy to accidentally do)! It's clear that anyone who accidentally types this is trying to get to a page on "English". Also, the search bar isn't the only way to access articles on Wikipedia, fyi. Paintspot Infez (talk) 19:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


Implausible mis-spelling Joseph2302 (talk) 09:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom; implausible search term and misspelling. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 16:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Come on, it's a plausible misspelling, and it's clear that anyone who accidentally types this is trying to get to a page on "English". Also, the search bar isn't the only way to access articles on Wikipedia, fyi. Paintspot Infez (talk) 19:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep - I wouldn't advocate for creating this if it didn't already exist, but it's been around for 14 years. This hurts nothing, and has the potential to be occassionally helpful. Nothing is to be gained by deletion. Hog Farm (talk) 16:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:Redirects are cheap (This comment applies to the preceding six nominations as well). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Hong Kong national security law[edit]

Split or bespoke decisions Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: procedural close.

Euro F3000 Brno[edit]

These were all created as articles for the 2004 races around June 2009, then converted to redirects July 3rd. Whether the articles themselves are salvagable or not I don't know, but they should have 2004 in the title. And for these redirects it's quite confusing having them target a specific season when most/all of the circuits mentioned hosted the Euro F3000s in other years so someone searching these titles is likely looking for a summary of all the Euro F3000 races at the circuit, so I suggest we delete them. A7V2 (talk) 02:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Further comment: Although I would still prefer deletion, I would definitely prefer retargeting to Auto GP than to keep the current target. My reason for deletion though is that they (especially for me, Euro F3000 Brno) come up as a search suggestion when typing in "Euro F3000" which wasn't a redirect until I made it just now, and I was of course very surprised when it took me to the 2004 article but I'm not sure going to Auto GP is that much less surprising. If someone actually wants to specifically find out about the Brno (etc) Euro F3000 races they won't find much at Auto GP. A7V2 (talk) 00:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak redirect all to Auto GP where there's a navbox at the bottom for all the circuits. Alternatively, redirect them to the particular circuit. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak retarget all to Auto GP. There they can navigate themselves to the specific year they may be looking for. I would be opposed to retargeting them to the specific cicuit per WP:RfD#D10.
    SSSB (talk) 10:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Auto GP (which is formerly known as Euro Formula 3000), as per above. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Only mention on the Wikipedia is at Brigandine, in the sentence " the King James Version of the Bible [Jeremiah 46:4] translates the Hebrew סריון[1] ÇiRYON or שריון SiRYoN "coat of mail"[2] as "brigandine"" Delete or retarget there, my preference is for deletion given the different accents and capitalization. Hog Farm (talk) 02:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Syria#Etymology as with Siryon alternative spelling. Brigandine is good too for the same reason, same definition, but if you do that, then move siryon to there too. The Lord of the Rings reference is nowhere mentioned. Even Isildur redirects to Aragorn. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:18, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Not mentioned in the target article, however according to this search, Wikipedia does have many mentioned uses of the word for different reasons. Looks like a dab page should be created. OcelotCreeper (talk) 02:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Can we soft redirect to wiktionary on this one? It sounds ripe for use in media, having been used in some books / media, songs, bands AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Soft redirect to Wiktionary. It's a commonplace word in current use in British English; anyone who wants it to know what it means will find a dictionary definition more useful than an article which doesn't pretend to list synonyms for "nonsense"; it doesn't include e.g. "bollocks", "hogwash" or "piffle" either. There's nothing worthwhile to disambiguate: all we have is namechecks for one or maybe two WP:NN bands (in Glenn Porter and Slapstick (band)) and an art book by Ben Templesmith. Narky Blert (talk) 06:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Three Wikipedia articles mention the band whose name was "Tommyrot", namely Glenn Porter, Slapstick (band), and Thirteenth Step (band). The article on the band here was not AFDed, it was just written over by the redirect and then eliminated.  --Bejnar (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

May 27[edit]


Apparently I missed some of these in the earlier discussions. Names of Nazgul in derivative works, so not really relevant to the main article. Per WP:VGSCOPE, too minor for the game articles. See #Dwar of Waw and #Hoarmurath. The number of these is ridiculous. Hog Farm (talk) 21:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Humanist (typeface classification)[edit]

"Humanist" refers to two things under the Vox-ATypI classification, and there are two sections with the same name under the current target of the second redirect. Humanist serif is a subtype of Serif#Old-style, while humanist sans-serif is described in more detail at Sans-serif#Humanist. Is either one the more common meaning? Paul_012 (talk) 18:54, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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List of presidents, vice presidents, first spouses and second spouses of the Philippines by longevity[edit]

Delete the redirect page, the article name has been reverted to only cover presidents. First spouses and second spouses are neologisms. The target page is also planned to be converted as a plausible redirect for List of presidents of the Philippines by age. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:19, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. —hueman1 (talk contributions) 11:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • (my opinion is now speedy keep)Delete Redirect is so complicated that hardly anybody would be willing to search it or type it in. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 17:25, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep per K4; this was the title of an article for plenty of time so there will be a lot of old links and readers annoyed by the lack of a redirect. @Hariboneagle927, HueMan1, and Prahlad balaji: please reconsider your !votes; currently dozens of readers are being inconvenienced – being at RfD disables the redirect. Retarget to List of presidents of the Philippines by age due to the double redirect. J947 [cont] 22:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
    J947, what articles link to this redirect? Please tell me, and I might reconsider my argument. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 22:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) Not mainly articles, but other websites. Read K4 for information. Also, please don't remove indentation – doing that causes accessibility problems. J947 [cont] 22:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I've changed my opinion, it's now speedy keep because there are still many articles linking to this redirect. --Stay safe, PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 22:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete The list referenced by the redirect title no longer exists due to the removal of the spouse information. The link should be red to signify that. -- Tavix (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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Brewing stand[edit]

Minor gameplay element that isn't mentioned at the target. Could conceivably also refer to real-life brewing tools, but even if it doesn't I think that the lack of content at the target is reason enough for deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)